Barbara is a retired French teacher who happens to be Sigrid's sister. The two have a conversation about language in general and about how Barbara became interested in the career path she followed.

Barbara talks about her studies and other experiences that led to her career as a French teacher. Immersion played a crucial role for both sisters in learning new languages.

Barbara talks about the different jobs she had teaching both French and English. Later, she also had a job supervising teachers of foreign languages, though she notes that these are now referred to as "world languages."

Barbara talks about a mistake she made as a language supervisor. Sigrid talks about how people in the U.S. speak English even when they have a very strong accent and it's OK. They both agree that learning with a native speaker of the language is the best way to learn.

Both Sigrid and Barbara like grammar and they talk about some of their pet peeves. The also agree that grammar isn't the most important thing. Using the language to communicate is more important.

Barbara talks about language programs called "dual immersion," student take their various classes in two different languages. She also describes her work as a copy editor.

When you are learning another language, you inevitably make mistakes. It's all part of learning, and can even help you remember how to use certain words, phrases, or grammar correctly. Barbara and Sigrid talk about mistakes they remember and never made again!